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Green Sally Up

Here's my transcription of the words to this song:

Green Sally up.
Green Sally down.
last one squat got to till {touch? tear?} the ground.

Ole {Oh?} Miss Lucy dead and gone.
Left me hear to weep and moan.
If you hate it fold your arms.
If you love it clap your hands.

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Electronic Message from a Cocojams' Reader:

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Hello, perhaps you could help me with the meaning of the lyrics of the song "Flower" that was recently remade by the musician Moby. The words of the first verse: "Green sally up and green sally down, lift and squat gotta tear the ground. Old miss lucy's dead and gone, left me here to weep and moan." My questions: Why is the song called "Flower"? Who or what is "green sally"? Is the song a sort of children play or ring game song? Thank you very much for your help!
-Mechtild F. ; 10/3/2006

Editor:
Hello, Mechtild F. Thanks for visiting Cocojams! 

As to the meaning of "Green Sally Up", and why the song is called "Flower" , here are excerpts of the comments I wrote on this Mudcat Discussion Forum thread:
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=6108#1267287
"Wade In The Water/Green Sally Up "

"Green Sally Up" is an African American children's game song is included on Disc 4 of Alan Lomax's Sounds of the South, A Musical Journey from the Georgia Sea Isles to the Mississippi Delta. {Atlantic 787496-2; 1993}

[My thanks to Tony Norman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette columnist, for giving me a the four disc Sounds of the South CD].

The CD notes for "Green Sally Up" indicate that this is "a black children's singing game performed by a group of women in Como, Miss. The slaves have passed on to a modern generation of children a whole literature of children's songs which resemble the familiar English Ring Around the Rosie, but which were gayer and more syncopated."

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The same verses are repeated again and again. The tempo of this song is rather slow. The only musical accompaniment for this song seems to be handclapping and foot stomping.

"Green Sally Up” may have been a corn husking dance song that was composed by African Americans in the 19th century or earlier. However, I think that it's more likely that this song originated as an African American children's game song.  “Green Sally” may refer to an ear of green corn. But if I were a betting woman, I'd bet that  "Green" Sally referred to a young, naive, inexperienced woman. In the context of the song, it's possible that the group could have been cautioning any participant and listener not to be naive enough to believe in the promises of their master or missus. In that regard, the "Green Sally Up" lyrics would have echoed the same bitter themes as those of "My Ole Master Promised Me" {when he died he'd set me free/ My ole Master dead and gone/left Bre'r Washington hilling up corn}"  Source: Dorothy Scarborough "On The Trail Of Negro Songs {originally published in 1925}.   

In the 18th and 19th century America, "Miss" was a title that was reserved for White women. In this song "Miss Lucy" was probably the slave master's wife. but she could have been another female family member. "Old Miss Lucy dead and gone” refers to Miss Lucy's death. The lines “If you hate it/if you love it” etc. were probably a coded way for enslaved people to share their true feelings about their Mistress’ death. If Miss Lucy was a mean ole woman who left the slaves to weep and moan {over their terrible hardships not Miss Lucy's passing}, then there was bound to have been whole lot of handclapping going on when this song was sung.

By the way, in the line "last one squat got to till {touch? tear?} the ground", “to squat” means to "stoop down".

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Another version of "'Green Sally Up" is found in Step It Down, a book on African American children's songs from the Georgia Seal Isle that was co-authored by Bessie Jones and Bess Lomax-Hawes. That version of "Green Sally Up" seems to be a much more syncopated. song that includes a number of floating verses that are found in children's rhymes such as "Mary Mack":

Green Sally up, Green Sally down
Green Sally bake her possum brown.

Asked my mama for fifteen cents
to see the elephant jump the fence.
He jumped so high, he touched the sky
He never got back till the fourth of July.

You see that house upon that hill,
That's where me and my baby live.

Oh the rabbit in the hash come a-stepping in the dash,
With his long-tailed coat and his beaver on.

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Bess Lomax-Hawes indicates that "The last couplet 'Oh, the rabbit in the hash' may be repeated over and over, either at a steady tempo or speeded up as much as three times faster. The 'Green Sally" couplet functions as a refrain, and may be put in anywhere ou want it". Also, the book relates that one of the Sea Islanders, Peter Davis, had said that he always said "Rabbit in the hatchet". This seems to be an example of folk etymology..

Unfortunately, I don't have a recording of the Step It Down version, but its description leaves me to believe that its much faster than the Sounds of the South version.

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A contemporary version of "Green Sally Up" was recorded in 2000 by Moby and titled "Flowers" . 

Listen to a song clip of "Flowers" by clicking
http://www.amazon.ca/Gone-60-Seconds-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B00004TM2D 

Also, see http://www.lyricsdepot.com/moby/flower.html

Here's a link to a YouTube music video of that song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDKkoH1ckHo  Note that video is erroneously titled "Bring Sally Up."

Also, here's a website about Moby's song "Flowers" {"Green Sally Up"} that include my theories about the meaning of those lyrics: : http://everything2.com/title/FLOWER

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Here's a game song that I wrote which was inspired by the game song "Green Sally Up":

Green Color Up

Group
:  Green color up.
             Green color down.
             Green color all around the town.
             If you have on green, just raise your hand.
    
        If you do not, just fold your arms.

Caller
: Red!

Group 
Red color up.
            
Red color down
          
  Red color all around the town.
          
  If you have on red, just raise your hand.
          
  If you do not, just fold your arms.

 (The caller calls out another color. People wearing that color  come into the circle, the others quickly leave and the group repeats the song)

© Azizi Powell 1997 

I introduced the song "Green Sally Up" in 1997 to children ages 5-12 years old who participated in an after-school group that I had started. The purpose of that group, Alafia Children's Ensemble, was to explore the creative & performing arts potential of traditional, contemporary, and original African American children's game songs and rhymes. For what ever reasons, the children in that group didn't like the words & the movements to the song "Green Sally Up" so I kept thinking about ways to update it. Finally, at one group session, Carol Williams, an Alafia parent and staff person suggested changing the words of the song to refer to different colors. I played with that idea, and this song is the result. And I'm pleased to say that this song "works", and children like its easy to remember words and movements. “Green Color Up” is a singing game that doesn’t have any winners or losers. It is a good way to help young children learn their colors and is a good way to help develop and reinforce group spirit and interaction skills. Besides, it is fun to play!

Here are the directions for playing "Green Color Up":

Participants form a circle. Participants can be mixed ages of boys and girls as well as adults. Participants don’t hold hands.  Someone is designated as the leader. The leader’s job is to randomly call out the name of a color each time the song is repeated. The only color whose call-out order is fixed, is “green” (unless no one present is wearing green). The leader may walk around the group while the song is being performed or may join the group forming the ring of the circle (the outer part of the circle). 

When the leader calls out the color “green”, all those who are wearing “green” can either go into the middle of the circle or stay where they are in the circle’s ring.  Everyone then sings the song together.  Everyone claps their hands while they are singing and performs the motions that the song’s words call for (for example: bending down when the song says “down”, stretching your arms up when the song says “up”, and turning around when the song says “around”}.  When the leader calls out another color, those people in the middle quickly rejoin the circle’s ring.  At the same time, people who are wearing the new color that the leader has just called enter the middle of the circle.  The game usually ends with the color green.
   

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